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Issue 147 in chromium: Warn when closing with multiple tabs open
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2009-11-22 09:31:16 UTC
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Comment #45 on issue 147 by deadlywill: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

OR - it can just be like Opera and not close unless you click the top right
X. It
remains open with a blank tab always so it cant close and there's no pop up
message -
try it - it's fantastic

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2009-12-06 22:05:20 UTC
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Comment #52 on issue 147 by uogpjf: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

The sheer number of times this issue is re-opened (and merged into this
one) should
be a fair indicator that
1) For some reason this bug is hard to find.
(or, as I suspect - sadly - people are not making the attempt to search
before
posting).
But just in case it's the former, can we add additional keywords?

2) Regardless: A significant number of people want this resolved. Possibly
more than
the 85 shown at this time.

Encourage everyone to star this.

Google/Chrome: Please state how many stars you want before reversing
your "WontFix".

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2009-12-07 22:11:36 UTC
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Comment #53 on issue 147 by geopagan: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Is there an appeal process for closed bugs? Whoever is continuing to toss
all of the
requests for this option obviously isn't giving them any consideration. I
can't
imagine that all of the chrome developers are so arrogant.


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2009-12-07 22:35:40 UTC
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Comment #54 on issue 147 by ***@marcelocarlos.com: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

geopagan: I think that we should open new issue, a write about it while
opening the
new ticket. This ticket closed as wont fix is unacceptable !! And of
course, put a lot of
stars on that new ticket, and pray for that another developer pay more
attention on
this issue !!

And we should put the comments of ticket 1820 by Klaus.Weidner:
Closing all windows and tabs without prompting is not just a user
preference, it's a
data loss issue, especially if the action is easy to cause by accident.

If you can guarantee that restarting the browser will always completely
restore
state, I'd be happy with not getting prompted. But please consider the
following
situations:

- there may be server-side state such as open AJAX server connections,
authenticated
HTTPS sessions, open gmail chats, or other things that cannot be restored
on a
restart.

- a web application running locally may have complex state stored in
memory. If an
app would normally be allowed to present a "are you sure you want to
navigate away
from this page" prompt, it should also be protected from being closed
unintentionally.

- reloading the data from the server may not be possible. For example, you
may be
on
a different network now than when the pages were loaded (or not have a data
connection at all), or the information may not exist anymore if it was part
of a
session.

- if surfing in incognito mode, storing the current state on disk would be
counterproductive.

I can understand the goal of not bloating the UI with unnecessary prompts,
but
avoiding data loss is a more important goal. If the browser can keep track
of what it
can restore and what it cannot (possibly with support from web apps),
including
storing the currently viewed content on disk where appropriate, it should
be possible
to allow seamless quit/resume with no data loss (and no prompt) for many
common
cases, and prompt only if the browser recognizes the risk of data loss if
quitting.
But I think that just making the behavior configurable would be easier :)

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2009-12-09 16:28:34 UTC
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Comment #56 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 29844 has been merged into this issue.

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2009-12-12 03:30:20 UTC
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Comment #57 on issue 147 by krschacht: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Chrome Team,

Let me tell you a quick story about why the lack of this feature makes me
reluctantly have to stop
using Chrome.

Just now I was just on a forum writing a lengthy response to a heated
discussion on a message
board I run. In order to write this response I was flipping back and forth
between a few different tabs
to reference what other users had written, make sure I was quoting
appropriately, etc. Along the way
I was closing out tabs as I addressed them (Ctrl+W). I had written about a
page worth of text when
all the sudden while pressing Ctrl+W I accidentally pressed (I think)
Ctrl+Q. I was in shock. It
happened so fast I didn't even know what happened. I thought the browser
had crashed, my lengthy
reply just disappeared in front of my eyes. I went to the Chrome History &
saw my forum tab listed
under "recently closed tabs." I re-opened it to see the original topic and
an EMPTY reply box where
an hour of work was lost. :( I was SO mad.

I urge you to add a confirmation with closing the entire browser--and even
better, Safari also has a
confirmation when you enter text into a form field and try to close a
single tab. I never realized how
valuable these features are until I don't have it. These are the kind of
features that, 95% of the time
they don't matter, but 1-5% of the time they are the most important feature
in the world and not
having them kills you. Unlike other features that affect only 1-5% of
users, I think this is a feature
that affects 100% of users, but only does so 1-5% of the time.

I've read this topic & I understand that currently the chrome team does not
plan to implement. This
is my plea to you as I sadly go back to using Safari because I can't afford
to occasionally lose chunks
of work as I accidentally close the browser. :(


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2009-12-17 05:46:01 UTC
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Comment #58 on issue 147 by hitchhiker.dontpanic: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

If you're adverse to having the popups happen so often, how about
implementing this
with an opt-in option? If you don't want it, it never appears. If we want
it, then we can
get it.

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2009-12-17 06:17:14 UTC
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Comment #59 on issue 147 by haridara: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I wonder if this can be achieved using an extension such that we don't have
to beg the
developers for this feature. Can anyone who has some exposure to the
extension system
comment on this?

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2010-01-03 01:13:31 UTC
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Comment #67 on issue 147 by colinscroggins: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I would like to request that this issue be reopened. The primary reason is
that while
tab recovery is an available feature from a normal Chrome window, it is not
an
available feature from an incognito window.

I do use Command+Q (Mac) and the red X button to close windows and have many
instances where I accidentally close a Chrome window full of tabs rather
than the app
I intended. Incidentally, lack of this feature kept me from adopting Safari
for over a
year (they finally added it).

It is one thing to close this bug without proper comment; it is another to
suggest that philosophically, this should be accomplished by a plugin (ex:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/dmpmdkippaddfpjnkjpohgbnpmeeaaa
l). If this is the case, then this type of direction and Google taking
initiative on
"official" plugins for issues like this would be much appreciated.

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2010-01-03 01:17:37 UTC
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Comment #68 on issue 147 by colinscroggins: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Plugin URL got mangled:

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/dmpmdkippaddfpjnkjpohgbnpmeeaaal

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2010-01-03 01:21:42 UTC
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Comment #69 on issue 147 by colinscroggins: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I would like to request that this issue be reopened. The primary reason is
that while
tab recovery is an available feature from a normal Chrome window, it is not
an
available feature from an incognito window.

I do use Command+Q (Mac) and the red X button to close windows and have many
instances where I accidentally close a Chrome window full of tabs rather
than the app
I intended. Incidentally, lack of this feature kept me from adopting Safari
for over a
year (they finally added it).

It is one thing to close this bug without proper comment when it is an
obvious sore
spot; it is another to suggest that philosophically, this should be
accomplished by an
extension (with the proper programmatic hooks). If this is the case, then
this type of
direction and Google taking initiative on "official" plugins for issues
like this would be
much appreciated.

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2010-01-15 20:08:13 UTC
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Comment #76 on issue 147 by HTMLPro: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Unbelievable, really. Come on, Google. People have been whining about this
since
September of 2008 and this still isn't implemented? The one thing holding
me back
from using Chrome as my default browser was the lack of AdBlock Plus. Now,
with
extensions enabled, I was happily using Chrome as default on a fresh
install of
Windows until about 15 minutes ago. I had typed a huge response to a
message board
and, before posting, had wanted to bookmark the thread. Silly me, I
overshot the
tools button and promptly closed all ~8 tabs I had open, and lost my
response. I
wanted to take a sledgehammer to my computer.

Seriously, this is so frustrating this isn't implemented. I'm about ready
to install
Firefox again. As for "disrupting my work flow with modal boxes," how do
you think I
feel now that I've lost all my work AND have wasted who knows how long
searching for
a solution and now typing this? Great job not interrupting my work flow.

Solutions? If you guys are really that religious about not having another
modal
dialog, at LEAST have a little drop down bar (similar to the password save
bar) with
a five second delay that says, "You have more than one tab open. Keep
Chrome open?"

Do it now, or I'll convert all my friends back to Firefox. ;)

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2010-01-15 20:16:26 UTC
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Comment #77 on issue 147 by jluckett79: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I've already reverted the default browsers on all of my machines (7 of
them) to
Firefox and have advised coworkers and friends to move back too. This is
just silly.
Even Safari implements a warning with a checkbox to never prompt again.

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2010-01-16 05:33:37 UTC
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Comment #80 on issue 147 by ryan.aipperspach: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Like several other commenters, I will probably stop using Chrome due to
this problem -
- I have several times lost logged in state and some amount of work by
accidentally
hitting apple+Q. It's unacceptable for that to happen in a modern browser.

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2010-01-17 11:53:22 UTC
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Comment #81 on issue 147 by Valerie.Cluydts: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

indeed, it's a disaster !!

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2010-01-18 06:18:13 UTC
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Comment #82 on issue 147 by vincent.lauria: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

this is insane, i just noticed that there is a dialog that warns you when
there is a file download in
progress (as many people have commented above). It's obvious a problem
with a large
population of users.

***@chromium.org - you and your team should to revisit the need for a
dialog box (with an
option to never warn again) as there seems to be many requests and there
are very similar user
cases (such as downloading a file), where the dialog box is in use.


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2010-01-19 16:16:09 UTC
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Comment #83 on issue 147 by apadmana: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I concur with other commenters here, I will probably have to stop using
Chrome due to
this issue. I usually run multiple windows of my browser with multiple
tabs. Accidents
happen, sometimes wrong window gets clicked. From all the comments here it
is clear
that not having this feature is a serious problem and I hope you guys will
reconsider
your decision.

Atleast provide a functional extension which we can choose to install.

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2010-01-23 02:41:14 UTC
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Comment #84 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 32423 has been merged into this issue.

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2010-01-23 13:22:15 UTC
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Comment #85 on issue 147 by ***@marcelocarlos.com: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

What a Joke !!!! The only interactions of google team on this issue is when
they merge
other issues to this one !! What a lack of respect with the costumers !!!!!
At least they
could explain something for us !

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2010-01-24 08:58:21 UTC
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Comment #86 on issue 147 by Klaus.Weidner: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Not speaking for the Chrome team, but based on how I'd interpret the
situation, can I
suggest the following:

- Chrome's goal is that it should be able to restore closed tabs with no
data loss.
If you close tabs and their content doesn't get restored correctly, please
file a
specific bug (ideally with a reproducible example) explaining the
circumstances.
Making restore work correctly is apparently the strongly preferred method
for
avoiding lost data.

- If you're unhappy with the design decision about not having a close
warning dialog,
adding more feedback to this bug (or adding new bugs specifically asking
for a
warning dialog) is unlikely to be successful. Please star this bug (voting
for it to
be fixed), and/or provide feedback in the Chrome help forum:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome?hl=en

- If you want an extension or other option to provide this feature, but
this isn't
possible due to API gaps, please file/vote on bugs as appropriate. (Code
contributions would be even more strongly preferred.)

I've put my "Window Close Protector" extension in the gallery, it's
intended to show
a warning dialog before closing multiple tabs. It's a rather crude hack due
to being
based on abuse of dynamic beforeUnload handlers in user scripts, it mostly
seems to
work but has some limitations. If you want to give that a try, here it is:


https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/lnpifgapnmpninomacbhdlconlpikdai/

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2010-02-02 18:47:01 UTC
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Comment #92 on issue 147 by otakushark: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

The browser has become too important to productivity to allow Google's
resistance to
modal dialog boxes to trump the potential for loss of user data through
accidental
closure.

Implement one of the suggestions already made, or add an option to disable
the X button
for users like me who never really need to close the browser, but do it out
of habit
anyway.

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2010-02-08 23:06:34 UTC
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Comment #95 on issue 147 by ajerman: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I'd like to agree. I originally just starred this issue, but I'd like to
add my feedback to
this as well.

Google, listen, this isn't a matter of "we're doing it our way, trust us,
it's better".
There NEEDS to be a notice. If this browser is ever supposed to be a
serious browser,
which I hope that it will be since it's what I solely use and suggest to
people, then
this HAS to be fixed. It's not a matter of an inconvenience when I have to
reopen the
browser and restore my tabs. That's annoying as hell, but I can handle it.
However,
there are times that windows are kept open and reopening the tabs CAN NOT
restore
the data how it was. Great, you cache pages, pictures, and save form data.
How
about someone doing something... oh lets just use the example of flash
related. Or
maybe AJAX related. There are things that the browser CAN NOT remember, and
very
important data may be lost because the Chrome team just "doesn't wanna have
a
dialog box".

To nearly anyone you ask, this is not an acceptable solution. In fact, I
challenge you
to find ANYONE who would say absolutely not to a dialog box that even
popped up
ONCE, and allowed you to check "don't remind me again". Or hell, even at
the very
least disable it by default but leave a way to enable it.

At this point I've had to resort to changing the quit chrome shortcut to a
different key
combo in OS X because I frequently click Q instead of W on accident,
especially if it's
dark. Trust me, this is much more of a hassle to your users than a simple
dialog box.

At this point I can't say I'm going to stop using or suggesting Chrome to
people, but I
will strongly consider it if issues like this are ignored. There's nothing
worse than a
product that is forced down your throat to work one way when a large
majority of
users wish would work differently.

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2010-02-09 09:01:30 UTC
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Comment #96 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 35022 has been merged into this issue.

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2010-02-09 16:57:02 UTC
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Comment #98 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@97: If that's the case, let's hope that someone does a partial fork of it
like the
FunPidgin/Carrier guys did.

(For those who aren't familiar with it, Pidgin is one of only two decent
multi-network
IM clients on Linux but the dev team loves to "tweak" the UI without
offering an
option to put it back to the old way. Carrier (formerly FunPidgin) tracks
the main
Pidgin tree but maintains a stack of patches to enable the desired
customizability.)

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2010-02-11 03:18:07 UTC
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Comment #99 on issue 147 by kreaninw9595: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Status: WontFix

Wow, this is very interesting. And somehow weird?

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2010-02-11 04:51:04 UTC
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Comment #100 on issue 147 by mac734: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I found Ben's response to this bug particularly vexing and unhelpful.
(Comment 11:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147#c11). A simple
warning box
with "Don't ask again" would satisfy both sides here, or have the feature
available
via opt-in. The Confirm Close extension isn't really a permanent solution.

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Comment #101 on issue 147 by markus.json: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I find it quite perplexing that there's been no real reasoning from the
developers side
regarding this issue, and to why it has been decided to leave it alone..

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Comment #102 on issue 147 by fjmd1a: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I've made a comment in the forums - because there's a strong hint here that
this
particular page is now being ignored.

I've been having lots of trouble with firefox, went over to chrome and
found it much
better in every way except this one. Because I use a mac, type a lot and am
mildly
dyslexic so occasionally hit the wrong key, cmnd-q is quite a common thing
for me to
hit by accident. I estimate on approximately a daily basis. There's nothing
that I
can do to stop this.

I am still baffled as to how google expects chrome to work with this gaping
hole in
its design. No-one would accept this from any other bit of software.

Two points seem to have been missed so far in this discussion concerning the
auto-load-last-tabs "solution", so I thought documenting them here would be
useful:

[1] if you have a slow connection, startup can take ages or grind to a halt
if you
have this option by default (it also requires that your state is saved
which is a
privacy hole)

[2] the web is not stateless - reloading a page won't get you back what you
had
before. Sure the web isn't supposed to work like that, but the reality is
that it
does. Many sites important to me do not behave well on reloading.

So, I seem to be being told to use chrome and accept losing all my work on
a daily
basis. Insane.

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Comment #104 on issue 147 by marcelocarlosbr: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

this is my last try before leaving google chrome ...
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36790
Please star it !! Maybe this time they can at least read what we are
discussing.

ps: the option to suggest this feature, which was present in
http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/static.py?page=suggestions.cs&issue=107375&bucket=15653
is
not available anymore. I hope that is because they accepted the suggestion,
but as they don't give us feedback
about it, we don't have how to know about it.

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Comment #107 on issue 147 by fjmd1a: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Part of the problem may be that google developers have really good/fast and
reliable
internet connections, so "reload everything" is much easier and more
efficient. A
classic "it works for me" response.

I also wonder how much coders use the web in a stateful way. I've no idea
if google
coders use a web-based IDE, but that sort of thing is a real pain unless it
saves
really well and often. With an unrealiable connection and making heavy use
of tabs
doing stateful things can mean even the best sties don't save too well.

I am still baffled by this though.

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Comment #113 on issue 147 by szwliew: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Never really post in these kinds of things but felt I needed to add my
voice. I
switched to Chrome and love it but a couple times I have already
accidentally closed
tabs a few times and it is very annoying and caused me a lot of pain
refilling out
forms. I have moved back to firefox for this sole reason. I prefer chrome
so I hope
this is addressed in the future.

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Comment #115 on issue 147 by zen338: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I like Chrome but I don't think the team will help us about this issue.
This issue
posted on Sep 2, 2008 and until now still the same issue. Just waste of
time because
they never listen to their users.

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Comment #116 on issue 147 by zen338: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Also forget to mention, this issue also makes me consider to buy other
Google products
such as Google Nexus One. Not because the product it self but about the
service and how
the team listen to their users suggestion. Well, maybe I am wrong they will
never
listen to us.

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Comment #117 on issue 147 by amuckart: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This is the most ridiculously obstinate opposition to a necessary feature I
think I have ever seen. It's utterly
hypocritical too in light of the dialog warning you about in-progress
downloads.

It is patently obvious that the google folk looking at this thread aren't
actually reading the words, they're just
parroting the same responses over and over and never addressing the actual,
real, data-loss issues people
are reporting.

RESTORING TABS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

Read that again, google people:

RESTORING TABS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

It does not provide equivalent protection from data loss, from data entered
into forms, from page states on
dynamic sites etc etc.

I like Chrome, a lot, but this noxious misfeature has driven me away from
it back to Safari. and as zen338
said, this is serious cause for reconsideration of using *any* google
product since they obviously have no
interest in implementing basic data-safety features their customers ask for.

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Comment #118 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 39468 has been merged into this issue.

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Comment #120 on issue 147 by marksands07: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Here's the deal.

If I'm typing an email or watching a youtube video and I want to close out
of a tab I do a cmd+w. However, my
fingers will slip and will hit cmd+q. What happens next? I cuss at my
computer for a good 15 seconds and get unnecessarily frustrated.

All you have to do is be all up in my grill about the situation! Who gives
a crap if there's dialog boxes?! They
exist for a reason. And a good reason they exist is to warn users when
they're about to close out of 27 tabs.
+7676489267389462798493274923709 my vote.

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Comment #121 on issue 147 by ***@talktalk.net: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I've recently moved to Chrome and after 2 weeks find this problem so
annoying I'm
thinking of leaving. Surely there must be a site to contact Google about
all this
discontent

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Comment #127 on issue 147 by WiseMax: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

PLEASE!...

Bringing back open windows will not work, and you know it! There is not
only the
downloads thing, I call your attention to TERMINAL effect on several other
important
things:
- Web conversations
- Games
- Commercial Transactions in progress
- And you could think of many more, no need to expand more at this moment,
suffice to
say that all those hings are time and/or session-dependant.

Interuption of such activities is very harmful at times and annoying at all
times.

The intelligent option is the dialog - you do not even have to bother
sniffing ant
any processes: just present it whenever two or more tabs are open - that
simple.

To the people who do nothing important at all with Chrome or hate pop-up
advisory,
then let them turn off this option - at their own peril.

Chrome will be idle in my PC UNTIL this option is available - I value too
much what I
do. Guess a lot of other people too, but our voice seems too low...

Thanks for (if) listening.



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Comment #129 on issue 147 by charan4242ster: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

bye bye chrome!!
RIP

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Comment #130 on issue 147 by melcooper23: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I love everything about Chrome except for this issue. It seems like now, I
keep
accidentally hitting it because I'm so conscious of it, if that makes any
sense. The
anxiety factor is really high. I do work where I search a large database of
work
titles, which are improperly categorized, so it has its own issues wherein
the
developer--seemingly willfully--ignores its users, so the issue with Chrome
is a
double whammy in production issues because when I sign back into the
database, I have
to go back to square one in my search and wade through hundreds of pages of
poorly
searchable data.

Again, I keep trying to overlook this issue because of all of the other
benefits
(speed is fantastic, and I love that the Lazarus app is available), but the
anxiety
and frustration are starting to win over. The restore feature is okay, but
honestly,
it is more about being jolted out of workflow. I may have to settle for a
slower
browser, but at least I won't have to worry about this matter.

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Comment #131 on issue 147 by snagnever: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

What about two "Close" buttons on the title bar? One, on the right to close
only the
current tab; The other, on its left, a button to close the window (and all
the tabs).

or a countdown before closing everything

or a double click to close

or, as it is supposed, the dialog ;D

none of them seem smarter than the dialog.

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Comment #132 on issue 147 by davebreak1: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This, and the crazy way Google handles email drives me nuts. What is it?
I think
Google has a huge NIH attitude problem. (not invented here = can't accept
other good
and well accepted ideas). Give me a popup, or any of the suggestions above.

As for email - For God's Sake, wake up. It's much easier to sort things
out when the
inbox is different from the Sent Box. I know what they are trying to do so
save your
lecture. I've used it for almost a year now and still think it is pretty
useless and
confusing.

Try replying to an email halfway up the chain and then come back and try to
figure
out what was included and who it was sent to. Google NIH.


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Comment #134 on issue 147 by sajblevine: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Just tried Google Chrome again. Still not fixed.

Saw a post about using a somewhat functional plugin. I appreciate these
peoples
effort but it just does not work for me. Definitely not worth the time and
effort,
sorry.

Apparently Google feels all these users aren't worth the small amount of
time it
would take them to make this an option; while there are users spending a
lot of time
trying to make it available. Somebody and Google really needs to wake up!

I could go on and on but my time is precious to me and I can't waste in on
something
or someone who very apparently does not care about me wasting my time when
a browser
is accidentally closed and my work is lost.

Google's status = WontFix
My Status = WontUse

Hello again my user friendly FireFox!


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Comment #135 on issue 147 by sajblevine: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Here is a FUNNY one for you.

Apparently it is OK for Chrome to close all of your tabs and lose all of
your work by
accidentally pressing Ctrl-Q or clicking in the big bad red X box WITHOUT
WARNING as
is heavily discussed in this forum.

- B U T -

If you go to "Add a comment" in these forums and then click the "Discard"
button you
will get a message box saying "Discard your changes?" "OK" or "Cancel"

Isn't this a bit of a discrepancy in policy?

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Comment #137 on issue 147 by Aardsoft: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I migrated from IE to Firefox years ago. Just recently I migrated to
Chrome. It is
clean and fast. BUT why can't Google just implement a simple dialogue to
warn when
multiple tabs are being closed. For the muppets who think this is a bad
idea Chrome
could provide a check box in the options 'Warn multiple tabs closing'. If
Chrome don't
think this is cool then they have lost another client!

Simples!!!!
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Comment #143 on issue 147 by cobbzilla: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Just one more person who, at lease once a day, hits Control-Q when he means
to hit Control-W. It really sucks.
For the religious nuts, I am fine with leaving it as is, go make me find
some little checkbox in the settings. Or as
others have suggested, put up a model with a "don't ask me again" checkbox.
Whatever.

Bottom line -- I am considering going back to firefox because this issue is
SO frustrating to me. When "design"
causes that level of frustration, one cannot justifiably call it "good".
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Comment #147 on issue 147 by mikko.nylen: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

While waiting for an official fix:

If you're using OS X, you can change the shortcut to quit Chrome by
following these steps:

1. Go to Keyboard under System Preferences
2. Go to Keyboard Shortcuts tab
3. Select Application Shortcuts from the left
4. Click the "+" icon
5. Set application as "Google Chrome", Menu Title as "Quit Google Chrome"
(it must be exactly this, without
the quotes) and press the desired new keyboard shortcut in Keyboard
Shortcut field.
6. Press Add and it should work

(this way, you can change the shortcut for other applications too)
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Comment #148 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 45425 has been merged into this issue.
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Comment #149 on issue 147 by ten.photos: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Agree that need an option to 'Warn on Quit'. I've just hit Cmd-Q three
times in a row when I meant to hit Cmd-
W... pain in the butt.
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Comment #150 on issue 147 by geopagan: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

What a farce. More and more users are bumping into the trap, asking for it
to be
closed, and having their requests funneled into this black hole.

The Chrome developers have never even commented on the request asking what
it takes
to get a bug report reopened.
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Comment #152 on issue 147 by awpaul: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Ludicrous. Mind-bendingly unfathomable as to why they have not implemented
this.

Absolutely disgusting quite frankly.

You will never beat Firefox at this rate.

Shame on all of you.
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Comment #154 on issue 147 by Nietzsche27: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

First off, it's worth mentioning that I came here prepared to rant and rave
about how presumptuous it was to simply ignore an issue of this magnitude
(and it's clearly a huge issue). I can't honestly even remember how many
times I've accidentally closed out of multiple pages due to clumsy
accidents and rushed clicks. Then I got into a debate with a friend who has
always been prepared to fight in defense Chrome's honor.

At first, he tried to pass it off as being "not as big a deal" as I made it
out to be. "Just have Chrome restore tabs when you re-open the browser," he
would say before I brought up the issue of lost content.

"Well, you can't assume that Google isn't working on a solution," he would
retort, before I linked to this very bug report (dated Sep 02, 2008).

At last, he finally conceeded that, perhaps, Google's design decision to
eliminate alert boxes was enough to trump the pleas of only a hundred or so
disgruntled users. "Complaining obviously doesn't work," he told me
knowingly, "Instead, we should come up with our own solution and post a new
bug."

Taking his words to heart, I've come up with a solution that doesn't
involve ANY alert boxes or pop-up messages:

Give users the option to put a 3-second, timed delay on the application's
top right windows close button (and even on tabs' close button, if they so
desire). Functioning similarly to how most computers' power buttons work,
the user would have to click and HOLD the exit button for three (3) seconds
before the application would close. If the user releases the button or
moves his or her cursor away from the button before the timer has counted
down to zero (0), then the timer resets to three (3) and the application
remains open. If the counter reaches zero (0), then the application will
close.

This would, of course, be an option that is turned off by default. But
users should be able to select whether they want it to remain off, always
count down when closing Chrome, only count down when closing Chrome while
multiple tabs are still open, and count down when closing an individual tab.
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Comment #155 on issue 147 by ***@evan.co.nz: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

+1 just lost a whole tabset for about the third time this week. Extremely
frustrating!
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Comment #157 on issue 147 by mrdwhipp: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Please "fix" this! Make it an option like the "restore tabs on startup",
etc., default can be "off", but please add the option!
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Comment #158 on issue 147 by bobfishel: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Please fix this.
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Comment #159 on issue 147 by bobfishel: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Please fix this.
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Comment #160 on issue 147 by ininpa: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Please fix this.
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Comment #161 on issue 147 by sebesta: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This question of design philosophy is foolish. Many other programs have
little-to-no pop-ups, but they sure as heck give you one when you are about
to make a foolish mistake. I'm glad that Microsoft was more intelligent
than Mac when defining the close program behavior, but that's years in the
past.

Right now, a single inadvertent key-press can ruin things. As I pilot, I
can tell you all about having giant, red "DO NOT PUSH OR YOU WILL DIE"
buttons in the cockpit. We engineered those out of existence in the 60s and
70s because accidents always happen, so why does Chrome insist on putting
one back in 2010?
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Comment #163 on issue 147 by danhood: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I agree wholeheartedly with the cited goal to "eliminate modal popup dialog
boxes that interrupt your workflow". However, providing a setting to
enable the display a confirmation on closing multiple tabs when quitting an
application does not hamper a user's workflow what-so-ever. I do not
comprehend the reluctance to make this a configurable option.

Inadvertently quitting the browser when you meant to close a tab and having
to restart the browser is a much larger break in user workflow. Simply
reloading a bunch of remembered URLs is not sufficient in many cases to
adequately remember state (e.g. session cookies do not survive a
quit/restart). Having to do whatever is necessary to restore this lost
state can present a huge break in workflow - likely much more than an
optionally configurable additional dialog would.

Ignoring what seems to be a popular request, while trying to find a "better
way of doing it" doesn't seem appropriate. Given that we're coming up on
nearly 2 years of the initial bug filing and comment from a member of the
dev team, I'd be curious to know what (if any) progress has been put
towards finding a "better way of doing it"?
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Updates:
Status: Available
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Labels: -OS-All -Area-Unknown OS-Mac Area-UI

Comment #170 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Alcor actually dreamed up a potential solution some time ago, but I forgot
to update the bug. Sorry to appear so unresponsive.

On the Mac, when the user hits cmd+q, we'd like to introduce a floating
warning that says, "Keep holding Cmd+Q to quit". If you hold the button for
0.5 sec (?), Chrome will actually quit. If you just tap, cmd+q, the
floating warning will appear, stick around for a couple of seconds, and
then fade away.

The reason we like this solution is because it allows users to actually
quit without doing something completely unnatural or learning a new
shortcut, but it also prevents against accidental close without the
annoying "Are you sure?" dialog.

We're planning to do this on Mac only, where the problem is more acute, for
now. We can consider it for other platforms if the solution is
well-received.
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Comment #171 on issue 147 by antony.stubbs: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

That seems a bit hacky and in-precise. What's wrong with a confirmation
dialog that people just press enter on, like every other program / dialog?
"Are you sure you want to quit?"
<enter activates 'ok'>
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Comment #172 on issue 147 by colinmccune: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

That sounds great! Looking forward to this feature being implemented.
Thanks for the update.
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Comment #173 on issue 147 by yoavar: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This is a ridiculous solution. Why not just pop-up a dialog box? Most
people don't really close their browser completely at all (unless they want
to release memory or something "un-natural" like it). You are deviating
from standards and making thing weird and complicated, where they shouldn't
be.
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Comment #174 on issue 147 by mrdwhipp: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Exactly (or maybe a good "guesstimate") how many people use chrome/chromium
on a mac, versus a pc? It's amazing the number of people asking for a
solution to this, and the seemingly total lack of regard from the
developers in providing a fix.

What's so hard about having a user controlled option, to be notified when
closing multiple tabs? Huh?
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Comment #175 on issue 147 by grkhetan: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Haha... this is like eating by taking your hand around your head. People
might be not alert enough to suddenly see your warning box, and react in
0.5 seconds !!

Why dont you think problem is acute in Windows... it is in fact
ridiculously acute... If you close the last window, atleast chrome will try
to open all tabs of the last session on next restart - so a consolation win
there -- but if you have multiple windows open, then window just closes
with no way to get those tabs back. Around 5-10 times I have done this and
lost 15-20 tabs each time with no way to recover (unless you go to history
and try figuring out which pages were in those tabs -- good luck figuring
that out...)

I am now using the 'Window Close Protector' extension to prevent this
damage in the future... but it is ackward to use an extension for
functionality which should have been in the produce in the first place...
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Comment #176 on issue 147 by Nietzsche27: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This is exactly the solution I was looking for. I can only hope it succeeds
on the Mac so that I can see it on Windows.

On a side note, perhaps those who are complaining about the decision to fix
this problem should tone down the indignant overreactions a bit. There's
nothing about this fix that is any worse than a pop-up box (other than the
amount of time it took somebody to jump on this thing).
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Comment #177 on issue 147 by simon.starr: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

"You are deviating from standards and making thing weird and complicated,
where they shouldn't be."

Exactly. The floating warning solution, while original and unique, doesn't
make a lot of sense.

If you're convinced that the "Are you sure?" prompt is going to annoy
people, why not just make it optional and turn it off by default instead of
introducing some strange new behaviour that's unique to this application?
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Comment #178 on issue 147 by cowbird: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Implementation aside, I would love a feature like this for the Mac
version. Since I often use Cmd+W to close my tabs, every now and then I'll
slip and hit Cmd+Q, inadvertently quitting the application. If nothing
else, some option to confirm quitting would be great for those accidental
slips.
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Comment #179 on issue 147 by Jonathan.Brune: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I couldn't agree more with Simon.Starr. The 'Are you sure?' prompt is not
annoying, but make it configurable in the settings.
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Comment #180 on issue 147 by ozgur.pekcagliyan: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I agree with Simon Star too...

And I may have also another suggestion;

You say, you don't like pop-ups thats cool, so, don't show pop-ups at all
and close the window immediately.. Save a timestamp to a file and save the
last state of web pages to the /tmp, c:\temp, etc... If I reopen browser in
a small amount of time (like 30 seconds), reload my last state but if I
reopen it in 5 days, forget the state and open me a new browser according
to selection in options (open home page, reopen last pages or open the
pages fallowing pages)
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Comment #182 on issue 147 by mkterra: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 51925 has been merged into this issue.
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Comment #183 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 36790 has been merged into this issue.
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Comment #184 on issue 147 by grkhetan: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Why is the OS "MAC" here --- is this why this is not getting any attention?
since this issue affects both OS'es, please can somebody with privileges
make this to OS "both"?

(why it affects windows users? Because if you close one window out of 3 by
clicking the cross at the top right, the window closes with no way to get
the tabs on that window back! -- slightly different issue than closing the
last window, but same solution of asking when a window is being close works
for both issues)
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Comment #185 on issue 147 by mrdwhipp: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

A quote from http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36790

Quite a reasonable response I'd say...

--=--=--=--Begin Quote--=--=--=--
Comment 18 by ***@gmail.com, Today (82 minutes ago)
Looking at the number of bugs merged and contributors to each of those
bugs, don't you think you're out of line when you say that it's "one of the
millions of Chromium users" that disagree?

Chromium has millions of users because the browser managed to beat Firefox
in a number of areas, and because users kept using it because they knew it
was in constant development.

Instead of treating unsatisfied users with contempt and comparing them to
spoiled brat stomping their feet, why don't you answer the real problem? If
it's been debated so long, where is the FAQ that addresses this issue
comprehensively?

I've heard that it didn't matter that one click could close all of your
tabs because there was an option to restore those tabs. I was willing to
accept that, in spite of the evident problem that some tabs may be "busy"
(java apps are the simplest example).

But then, another user came and pointed out that if you had several open
tabs in Chromium window A and several open tabs in Chromium window B and
accidently closed on of them, then there was NO WAY IN HELL you could get
your tabs back. What is the UI design justification for this? What is the
workaround, apart from "don't accidently click on the top right of your
screen" or "don't press ALT+F4 too long when closing a window that happens
to be before Chromium in the list of active windows on your desktop"? How
is it possible to justify not having a pop up when it is so simple an
answer to so big a problem? How can we, millions of Chromium users, can
keep on using the same browser at home and at work, when said work could be
gone just because of a simple misclick?

Please, point me to the place where all of this has been discussed and
solved. Then, maybe me and the hundreds of people who suffer from this
issue will keep on making Chromium a browser with millions of users.
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Hear, hear! Oh wait, the "developers" are deaf, and likely blind to REASON!
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Comment #186 on issue 147 by wesley.moxam: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

This is my only gripe with Chrome, but it's a big enough issue that I can't
continue to use it. I've lost my work (unsubmitted comments, etc) several
times now. Moving back to Safari :(
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Comment #192 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

The current Mac experiment is to make Cmd-Q not close immediately, but
instead show some kind of visual countdown and require you to hold the key
combo for some fraction of a second or else it won't close. Not so good if
someone walks in on you when you have something confidential (and/or
private) on screen.

I'd rather see that Cmd-Q/Alt-F4 immediately minimizes the window and shows
some dialog "Hold Alt-F4 to close your 42 tabs" [Undo] [Close tabs] (and
switch button order depending on Mac/win...). I also propose that if I just
tap Alt-F4 quickly then the window stays minimized (and perhaps not even
visible on the taskbar?) and the dialog stays open until I either re-press
and hold Alt-F4 long enough, or that I click (using either mouse or
keyboard) either button.
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Comment #193 on issue 147 by Jasper.deGrooth: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

"If there is no closing warning, there should be the possibility, to
restore a session (completely with the check boxes I checked, the things I
typed in a form, and so on)!"

That's the point.

Maybe Chrome should save all inputs on a page temporarily, until they are
sent successfully to the server.

I've made a new issue (52422) about that:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=52422
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Comment #200 on issue 147 by gonzobrains: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I agree. I use a mac and I often use command-w and by mistake hit
command-q when chrome is active. totally sucks when i am on a slow
connection and have multiple tabs that must be reloaded when i restart
chrome again.

I can't believe everyone has been droning on about this for two years.
It's a really simple feature to add that can be enabled and disabled to
suit everyone's preferences. what's the big deal anyway?

jeff
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Comment #208 on issue 147 by beckyharris623: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@dblagent007


shouldn't have to get an extension if something was either 'enabled'
or 'disabled' by the USER.
Seems like the whole world wants an option and not a hard and firm no.
FFX has this and Chrome should too.

I have CMD+Q too many times when I meant to hit 'W' or any number to get to
a tab.
Someone at the Chrome team should wake up and make this an option.
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Comment #209 on issue 147 by lorenzo816: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@dblagent007


shouldn't have to get an extension if something was either 'enabled'
or 'disabled' by the USER.
Seems like the whole world wants an option and not a hard and firm no.
FFX has this and Chrome should too.

I have CMD+Q too many times when I meant to hit 'W' or any number to get to
a tab.
Someone at the Chrome team should wake up and make this an option.
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Comment #210 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 56167 has been merged into this issue.
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Comment #211 on issue 147 by brunob: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

There are 18 mentions of "ctrl" (i.e. Windows) for this issue and 30
mentionds of "cmd" (i.e. Mac). Given the market share of Macs, this is
heavily weighted as a Mac problem though it exists on both platforms. I'd
argue against creating a separate bug as it will lose the gathered weight
of many inputs.

As was mentioned in the first comment, the preference option to "Reopen the
pages that were open last" works just fine as a solution. I've been using
it for a while and it works just fine for me.

I think the best solution would be to show the "Restore Tabs" option on all
startups - this is normally just shown for unexpected quits. I feel that it
has the right benefits of minimal change to existing behaviour and yet it
should address most people's concerns on both platforms.
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Comment #212 on issue 147 by brunob: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Can someone change the title to:

"Show 'Restore Tabs' option on all startups, not just for unexpected quits"
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Comment #213 on issue 147 by dguaraglia: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@brunob, not really. I think most people want a warning, not just an option
to restore tabs. There's a big difference: when restoring tabs, you lose
all the state in the tab. So, even if it gets restored, you might lose a
2-page e-mail. Not as useful as a simple warning.
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Comment #214 on issue 147 by filarono: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I just would like to say my opinion: Firefox, Safari, Internet Explorer and
Opera show a warning. If they made this option it's because it's useful to
people.

So why dones't Google make a similar option in Chrome? Is isn't difficul at
all!!!
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Comment #215 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I can't believe there is such a huge amount of opposition to this fix. Is
chromium an open-source project or not? I get that there needs to be
gatekeepers, but still, it's such a tiny fix that can be completely
unobtrusive by being opt-in... what is the problem? This is sad, just
absolutely sad. As many others have said, just restoring the tabs is and
unacceptable band-aid for this problem. It kind of feels like Steve Jobs
telling me to hold my phone differently.
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Comment #217 on issue 147 by gnachman: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I just lost all my data again thanks to this bug. How long does it take to
add a confirmation dialog? How many people have to be pissed at you? You
look irresponsible.
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Comment #220 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Aside from wanting to see this changed to All OSes, the current
functionality is flawed/wrong because it breaks the two "laws" of user
interface design, as given by Jef Raskin:

First Law: A computer shall not harm your work or, through inactivity,
allow your work to come to harm.
Second Law: A computer shall not waste your time or require you to do more
work than is strictly necessary

From an older "Official Guidelines for User Interface Developers and
Designers" (Microsoft Windows User Experience):

"An important principle of user interface design is that the user should
always feel in control of the software rather than feeling controlled by
the software. … You can automate tasks, but implement the automation in a
way that allows the user to choose or control it.

From the current (April 2010) version of the "User Experience Interaction
Guidelines" from Microsoft:

"A warning message is a modal dialog box, in-place message, notification,
or balloon that alerts the user of a condition that might cause a problem
in the future. The fundamental characteristic of warnings is that they
involve the risk of losing one or more of the following:
- A valuable asset, such as important financial or other data.
- System access or integrity.
- Privacy or control over confidential information.
- User’s time (a significant amount, such as 30 seconds or more).

From the current version of the "User Experience Interaction Guidelines"
from Microsoft:

"Confirm commands for risky actions or commands that have unintended
consequences. Use a confirmation dialog box for this purpose."

From the current version of the "User Experience Interaction Guidelines"
from Microsoft:

"Modal dialog boxes require interaction, so use them for things that users
must respond to before continuing with their task. Make sure the
interruption is justified, such as for critical or infrequent, one-off
tasks that require completion."

From IBM's "Design Principles for Tomorrow":

"Allow users to be in control of the interface. Don’t limit users by
artificially restricting their choices to your notion of the ‘correct’
sequence of steps needed to accomplish a task. … Allow users to establish
and maintain a working context, or frame of reference, from within which
they can perform actions. … This contextual framework contributes to the
feeling of stability."

From Apple's Human Interface Guidelines

"Allow the user, not the computer, to initiate and control actions. Some
applications attempt to assist the user by offering only those alternatives
deemed good for the user or by protecting the user from having to make
detailed decisions. Because this approach puts the computer, not the user,
in control, it is best confined to parts of the user interface aimed at
novice users. Provide the level of user control that is appropriate for
your audience."

Surely, the UI/UX team at google sees the negatives of letting chromium
close multiple tabs without warning, when *no other browser does this*.
It's not only good behavior to have a modal in this case (to prevent loss
of data & waste of time), it's expected behavior across all operating
systems and the vast majority of programs, not just browsers.

For the people that complained about closing a tab & not being able to get
it back: if you set your Home Page to use the New Tab, then you will have
the option to restore "Recently closed" tabs and windows. That doesn't mean
that allowing multiple tabs to close without asking the user if that's what
they want to do is the right solution, as you are allowing data destruction.
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2010-10-06 14:03:13 UTC
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Comment #223 on issue 147 by amit.bhatta: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

And I am amazed to see that inspite of such hue and cry google is still not
bothered to add this feature in even the latest development release of
Chrome 7.0.536.2. Guys I think google want you to use chrome only for
unimportant browsing sessions. For all other important web related work
please use IE or FF. Google is simply not bothered!!
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Comment #224 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I personally prefer a dialog box, no exceptions. If I am immediately
prompted about the state of my browser (multiple tabs, downloads, etc.),
then I can make a decision without absent-mindedly forgetting about it
(especially the case when I have multiple sessions of the browser open for
my various topics of research) and not have to look around for an option to
reload my previous session.

A dialog box is a dialog box, it doesn't require significant amounts of
extra processing power, it's a safeguard against unintentional actions, and
only requires an additional 2-3 seconds of a person life to interact with.

This whole concept of simplifying and minimising the use of dialog boxes
seems somewhat counter-productive if you're resorting to making users have
to look for options in menus, settings panels, plug-in options (etc. etc.)
knowing very well that most internet users are not tech-savvy.

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Seeing how much friction this is causing; I believe the simple solution to
this is to conduct a survey/poll to see what the general user consensus is.
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2010-10-19 04:08:41 UTC
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Comment #226 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing
with multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Issue 59621 has been merged into this issue.
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Comment #227 on issue 147 by poofig: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU today i was editing an articles and lost all the changes
I've done by clicking "close" instead of "maximize. I hate you all! Burn in
hell!
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Comment #237 on issue 147 by ARidings: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

... MAC again. Are you kidding me!? WINDOWS people, WINDOWS!!! Why are you
so resistant to helping people that have Windows!? I'd really like a better
answer than the ones you have been giving. This is just getting ridiculous.
Two years now, about to enter a third year in a couple of months of this
like you won't take your users seriously. It's giving your users a distinct
lack of trust in you at all.

I'm tired of reading solutions for Mac but not Windows and I'm tired of
being told putting in a dialog box will interrupt my work flow. I use my
computer for a website based business and having the freaking window close
on me in the middle of processing orders because I clicked over just a
little bit too far INTERRUPTS MY WORK FLOW.
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Comment #240 on issue 147 by gonzobrains: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

When I use Chrome on a Mac, often I just want to close one tab with Cmd+W
but hit Cmd+Q by accident. It really sucks to have a dozen tabs close and
then reload them, especially on a slow/expensive mobile connection.

I don't see what the problem is by making this optional. Just have a
setting where users can enable/disable it and then everyone is happy, right?

gb
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Comment #241 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@gonzobrains, Read the last few comments?
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2010-11-06 00:55:47 UTC
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Comment #242 on issue 147 by ***@gmail.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

Can't wait for the fix. I do this every few days and it's incredibly
annoying.
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2010-11-06 01:31:57 UTC
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Comment #243 on issue 147 by gonzobrains: Warn when closing with multiple
tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

which comments, specifically?
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Comment #244 on issue 147 by dozure: Warn when closing with multiple tabs
open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

@gonzobrains: #236
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Comment #245 on issue 147 by ***@chromium.org: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

The current dev channel (9.0.572.0) now has this feature in about:flags.
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2010-11-06 21:39:28 UTC
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Comment #246 on issue 147 by ***@mikenbob.com: Warn when closing with
multiple tabs open
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=147

I like it!
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